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Who Really Benefits from Negative Gearing?

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Who Really Benefits from Negative Gearing?

Great piece of research from the ABC on who really benefits from negative gearing. It’s worth taking a look and we’ve also posted the full article on our media page. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/negative-gearing-by-occupation/7357718

There are two articles today of extreme interest in this debate, the one above on who really benefits from negative gearing, a list by profession prepared by the ABC and the following article which clearly explains the myths and the facts for property investment and how negative gearing really works and its effects on the housing market in Australia. This article is complete, it’s too good not to allow you to read in full.

“ Let’s answer the myths about who uses negative gearing, what benefits they get and what would be the impact on the economy if the tax system was radically changed.property-bubble

Who really benefits from negative gearing?

Treasurer Scott Morrison dismisses a report indicating high income earners receive the most advantage from negative gearing. Audio courtesy of Radio National.

Another day and another set of half-truths and myths about negative gearing.

This time, the Grattan Institute is calling for retrospective changes to housing investment that would raise tens of billions of dollars in new taxes on property owners. This is even more than federal Labor’s policy that would raise $32 billion in additional property taxes over the next 10 years.

These new taxes are all predicated on myths about negative gearing, rather than on modelling the economic impacts of change.

So let’s answer the myths about who uses negative gearing, what benefits they get and what would be the impact on the Budget and the economy if the current taxation system was radically changed.

Myth:  Negative gearing mainly benefits those on higher incomes

Fact:  58 per cent of net rental loss deductions by value go to the people with taxable incomes less than $80,000.  Only 13 per cent go to those with taxable incomes above $200,000.

Myth: Property investors are driving up house prices.

Fact: Housing investors are helping increase supply and that’s taking pressure off house prices. Last year, Australia constructed a record 220,000 new dwellings – 65 per cent were purchased by owner/occupiers and 35 per cent by investors. The investors are vital to helping Australia meet its housing shortfall.

Myth: Negative gearing disproportionately benefits surgeons and anaesthetists

Fact: There are 891 anaesthetists and 1020 surgeons who negatively gear.  By comparison, there are 89,900 clerical staff, 48,900 teachers and 33,700 nurses and midwives who negatively gear. Changes to negative gearing will shut the door to these people to build a “nest egg” for the future.

Myth: Negative gearing is a big hit on the budget

Fact: The cost to the budget of negative gearing is dropping. Net rental losses from investment properties have fallen from $7.9 billion in 2011-12 to $3.7 billion in 2013-14.  This is a drop of 53 per cent in two years.

Myth: Negative gearing is a rort that does nothing for the economy

Fact: The property industry employs 1.1 million people. The construction of a typical home involves 40 tradies and contractors. The industry is a vital part of the economy. Labor’s negative gearing policy puts an additional $32 billion in taxes on property over the next 10 years.

But all these arguments miss a bigger point – those blaming negative gearing for all the woes in our housing markets have constructed a strawman.

When in fact the chronic undersupply in the past decade – leaving a deficit of 200,000 homes against demand – is the root cause of escalating prices and where policymakers should turn their attention.

In Sydney, we are still paying the price for the policies of the previous state government that declared “Sydney is full”. The prices that families, couples and singles are paying for housing in Sydney, and in other capitals is a direct result of policies that hinder supply.

No one can escape the laws of supply and demand – and policies that smash negative gearing and drive up capital gains tax, will affect investment decisions.

It is only in recent years that we have started to tackle the housing deficit in our country, and as we have done so, house prices and rents have started to moderate.

However, demand pressures will remain as our population grows.  In Sydney alone, it is estimated  we will need to construct an additional 44,000 dwellings every year for the next 15 years just to keep up with demand.

During a time when housing investment is vital for jobs and to keep a lid on housing prices, the Grattan Institute and the federal Opposition are proposing radical changes to property investment. They are arguing that property owners, who last year paid a record $45 billion in property taxes (up over 10 per cent), should be slugged even more.

The Opposition has said its policy will not impact investment decisions. My question is when was the last time a government took an extra $32 billion from an industry and expected it to have no impact?

Major changes to negative gearing will make housing investment less attractive. This will, in turn, impact housing supply – and we will return to the bad old days, when supply did not keep up with demand.

If we want to make housing more affordable in our country, we must tackle the blockages to supply and not impose new ones. Proposed changes to negative gearing and capital gains tax will make a bad situation even worse.”

Ken Morrison is chief executive of the Property Council of Australia: The full article was published in the Sydney Morning Herald on 28/4/2016, click here: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/neative-gearing-isnt-the-bad-guy-in-the-housing-debate-20160427-gog59a#ixzz475X7LNkF

Negative gearing reduced to schoolboy debating

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Negative gearing reduced to schoolboy debating

“Negative gearing reduced to schoolboy debating” states one of our most respected papers today. It was also said that the only thing worse for a government than houses becoming more expensive is houses becoming cheaper…. so Mr Turnbull has now set one of the big issues for the coming election on negative gearing. Rather than keep repeating what negative gearing is all about, take a quick lesson from our FAQ page click here (8th question down on the list): http://propertyinvest.co/property-investment-frequently-asked-questions-faqs-information/

This is the 4th blog we’ve written on negative gearing in the last couple of months simply because it’s such a hot topic! I do think this is the best headline we’ve seen yet; a headline that really captures what all the fuss is about – lots of shouting, lots of claims and counter claims, big assertions and at the end of the day ‘schoolboy debating’ with a confusing outcome.

The Prime Minister says no change to negative gearing or capital gains tax

The Prime Minister says no change to negative gearing or capital gains tax

So let’s just try and summarise again what the two sides are saying. Let’s look at the current Government position and Mr Turnbull first:-

  • No change at all to people who wish to buy an investment property things to go on as is.
  • No change at all to capital gains tax things to go on as is
  • No change at all to our current system – nothing is going to change!

Hopefully this is quite clear to all.

Now for the leader of the opposition who does want some change to property investment and people hoping to purchase an investment property to assist with building asset for their future. Firstly, for those who currently own investment property:-

  • No change at all to people who own investment property
  • Slight increase in capital gains tax (maybe?)
  • No change at all to everything else

Quite clear? Mr Shorten will ‘grandfather’ current rules so no one who currently owns investment property will be affected by new rules. The big change he does intend making is that negative gearing will not be allowed on older investment properties purchased after 2017. However, if you purchase a brand new investment property, then there will be no changes at all!

Hopefully this makes the implications of all the debate simple and clear.

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Negative Gearing Is Here to Stay?

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There is Nothing to Worry about for Investors Who Are Negatively Geared. Negative Gearing is Here to Stay

As we said in our blog on 16th February, the political and media scare campaign is definitely on. Again we’ll reiterate that virtually every year for the last 20 years, there has been some scaremonger in the media about changes to negative gearing “in the next budget” but negative gearing is here to stay.

So where are we up to now? Well it appears that Mr Turnbull and his government has decided to drop the idea of change completely and attack Mr Shorten and his Labour team with the usual political scare campaign.

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The scare campaign by the Liberals got a little bit messy during the week with the Government arguing with itself apparently that the changes proposed by Mr Shorten would see the price of property become even more unaffordable but on the other hand, house prices would drop considerably!

This contradiction was eventually ‘explained’ with a couple of statements that still don’t make any sense. What the Deputy Treasurer meant to say was that brand new property, which would not be affected by any Labour change, would become so popular with investors that prices would go through the roof! However, as there would be no investors (or very few at least) buying second hand property, then the second hand property market prices would collapse. Makes sense until you actually understand where investors get their money to buy investment property; yes most obtain their funds through a lending institution such as a bank. As we all know, banks are very careful about lending against property and will not lend until they do a valuation on the property. One of the main criteria of bank valuation is ‘comparable properties’ in the area. If a comparable second hand property has just sold for a lot less than the brand new property the investor is hoping to buy, then the bank will almost certainly value the new property at a comparative price to the similar second-hand property. So the question is where will the investors obtain the money to buy new property if it becomes so much more expensive than the similar older property?

I’d say it’s virtually impossible for a two-tier market to emerge between older and new property simply because the lenders/banks will not allow this to happen.

So again, if Labour do get elected, their policy is not going to make a lot of difference to property prices, current investors are protected by the new rules being “grandfathered” and the bottom line is that, like all other discussions over the last 20 years, we can expect this debate to disappear and be forgotten…. until about next year at this time when it is guaranteed there will be some mention of change in the media again!

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Young Investors or Fools!

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Do Gen X and Gen Y Really “Need their Head Read?

Young Investors or Fools – Do Our Younger Population Pay More Because of Ignorance?

Interesting debate in the headlines of some of our national newspapers today, my question is are they Young Investors or Fools?

It’s all about a group that I used to be a member of, our under 30’s. Basically they are getting very little of the $40 billion in tax benefits being shared by the older demographic cohorts!

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Young Investors or Fools?

The basic cause of this very unfair treatment of our younger workers may well rest in their own ignorance. In the words of the late Kerry Packer, “If anybody in this country doesn’t minimise their tax they want their head read”. For those younger generations who want to know a little more, Kerry was the father of James Packer. Kerry died a few years ago as Australia’s wealthiest person. It’s worth having a look at this infamous committee appearance by Kerry into corporate tax. See more here: http://goo.gl/llfSvw

The news article today tells us, “It is overwhelmingly older, wealthier people who access the breaks to buy and sell properties and to park income at discounted tax rates.”

Lime Property Solutions has many younger clients who do not need their head read. Instead of throwing up their hands and shouting “UNFAIR!” they have contacted Lime and found out how easy it is to buy an investment property with relatively little saved or with nothing saved and good trusting parents who are prepared to give a guarantee. Just so many don’t know because they don’t bother to find out!

Have a look at the Kerry Packer link above. Here is the full statement,

“”I don’t know anybody that doesn’t minimise their tax,” Mr Packer growled as he stirred his delicate parliamentary china cup of tea with a teaspoon.”I’m not evading tax in any way shape or form. Of course I’m minimising my tax. If anybody in this country doesn’t minimise their tax they want their head read. As a government I can tell you you’re not spending it that well that we should be paying extra.” To read today’s full article go to: http://goo.gl/dScY0Z

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No Changes to Negative Gearing

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No Changes to Negative Gearing – There is Nothing to Worry about for Investors Who Are Negatively Geared

The media scare campaign is definitely on but there will be No Changes to Negative Gearing. Virtually every year for the last 20 years that I know of, there has been some scaremonger in the media about changes to negative gearing “in the next budget”.

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This time, for those who actually read the articles rather than glance at the headline and guess the rest, there is no talk of changes in the May Budget but Labour has made a policy statement that things will definitely change under a Labour Government for those that do not currently have an investment property! Yes people, the current system will be grandfathered, meaning that only new purchasers of investment property after 2017 will be affected. The word “New” should probably not have been used in the last sentence, I was referring to buyers after 2017 but even buyers after 2017 will NOT be affected by any changes if they purchase brand new property!

No Changes to Negative Gearing

The Liberals are still talking about what they may do, but again, they have been making some references to any changes they may make being “grandfathered”.

Instead of being frightened off of investment property with some scary headlines, the big message really is BUY YOUR INVESTMENT NOW before things might change!

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